Here’s a question worth sitting with this week. Do you want to be interesting? Or do you want to make people feel interesting?

Most agents are chasing the first one. They walk into listing appointments, recruiting conversations, and team meetings trying to prove how much they know — their stats, their scripts, their systems. Meanwhile, the agents who actually win are running a completely different play. In this solo episode, Kevin Kauffman breaks down why the agents people keep choosing aren’t the most impressive ones in the room. They’re the ones who make everyone else feel like the most impressive ones in the room.

What you’ll take away from this episode:

1. The honest question to ask after every conversation — did they walk away feeling impressed by you, or feeling more capable themselves?

2. Why most agents lose business by trying to prove how much they know

3. The recruiting shift that turns “pitching the model” into a conversation people actually want to have

4. The leadership question every team builder needs to answer — do my agents feel more dependent on me, or more capable without me?

5. A simple 4-step framework you can run in your next conversation tomorrow

If you want to lead a business and a team that compounds trust over time, the way you show up in conversations matters more than any script, system, or stat sheet. That’s exactly the kind of leadership we’ve built at Next Level Agents — a community of agents who win by making other people more capable. If that sounds like the room you want to be in, learn more at nextlevelagents.com/exp.